‘DO YOU know what I love about it?’ smiles Pink, leaning back and folding one white-booted foot over the other. ‘I was told before this record that it might not go well for me because I’m old. If you’re a woman over 35, you’re not going to get played on radio. So that put a little bit of a fire under my ass!’
The 38-year-old singer, born Alecia Moore in Pennsylvania, has good reason to laugh. She stuck up a massive metaphorical middle finger with new album Beautiful Trauma, featuring the likes of Eminem and Max Martin, which went to number one in 62 countries.
Having shifted more than 48 million albums since her debut at the turn of the millennium, the wild child-turned-‘soccer mom’ is still making irresistible pop music characterised by raw emotion and soul-baring honesty. She’s also famed for astonishing live vocals and acrobatic performances, most recently dangling off a building at the American Music Awards.
Pink is candid and funny about the joys and challenges of being both a massive pop star and a parent — with husband Carey Hart — to Willow, six, and Jameson, 11 months.
‘It was so gnarly,’ she sighs, recalling taking Willow on tour. ‘Now I have other pop stars emailing me on how to tour with children. I’m like, “Why does everyone think I’ve got it together? I don’t know what I’m doing!” Pad the bunks so when they stop fast they don’t bump their heads, that’s all I can tell you.’
The reality is that Pink took her daughter ‘to every children’s museum across the world, Disney On Ice — every minute of every day I was trying to be supermom because I felt so guilty about working’.
And what did Willow decide was her favourite moment? ‘She was like, “Um, I remember marshmallows in catering?”’ says Pink. ‘For f***’s sake. No children’s museums for you, Jameson, here’s some marshmallows!’
While raging hormones are never the most fun of roller-coasters for us girls, it turns out that intense emotions — and a compressed diaphragm — can actually be key to producing a hit pop record of passionate intensity.
‘I hit notes I’d never hit before and will never hit again,’ she confides of making Beautiful Trauma while pregnant with Jameson. ‘But there were just so many feelings! Everyone keeps being like, “Are you OK?” I’m like, “I was pregnant when I wrote that. No, I wasn’t f***ing OK!”’
Pink’s prowess as an inspirational mother was evident in her speech at the 2017 MTV Video Music Awards. She described teaching her daughter, who had said, ‘I’m the ugliest girl I know’, about self-love, gratitude and embracing difference. But she admits confidence isn’t something we can just switch on at will.
‘I’ve hated myself at so many points in my life,’ she says. ‘I look at myself and I’m like… “Is this it?!” But then it automatically changes into either gratitude for my health or f*** it. I’ve got to the stage where I’m like, “I’m never going to be that size, I’m never going to look younger than this.” So f*** it!’
This emphasis on gratitude informs Pink’s world view — that the whole of life is a beautiful trauma.
‘I think life is f***ing traumatic and getting more so by the day,’ she says. ‘But I also think there’s a lot of beauty and I believe in holding on to that, especially now. You have to give fair time to it, you have to remind yourself that the good stuff is all around you. Gratitude, gratitude, gratitude. Cos otherwise it’s f***ed, everything’s f***ed!’
Pink is funny, kind-hearted, potty-mouthed and feisty — all the attributes you could wish for in a grown-up pop star. But it’s her relatable authenticity that’s kept her relationship with her fans burning during a 17-year career.
‘I feel like I’m a viral rash, I just don’t go away and you can’t cure me!’ she laughs, pondering the reasons for her career’s longevity. ‘But seriously, I have no idea. I think it’s that I believe in being totally, uncomfortably honest. I hear from people that are like, “You went through that? I went through this.” That’s the power of truth and song, and that’s why I do what I do.’
‘It’s unbelievable. It’s INSANE. Every day I just throw my hands up in the air and go, “You gotta be kidding me. This has to be a cruel joke.” But again, if this is rock bottom then we’re going to have some great change from it.’
‘I think our whole perception of what feminism means and what the female experience is, is changing right now. Wage gaps, all of it, it’s all coming out. All the illusions are dissolving and all the unspoken truths are being spoken.’
■ Beautiful Trauma is out now